Well at least you have lots to chat about. We however, are working tirelessly with our Michigan team to get this funded and we spend most of the weekend on a proposal to some people you would know. Jay
Thanks for your comment - we are now working with quite well known people to get this funded in every swing state. Updates on the Substack newsletter. Regards, Jay
It keeps occurring to me that the postal workers union has to been in on this? That is a shame because I come from a pro-union family. If it is so, my father is turning over in his grave.
"It keeps occurring to me that the postal workers union has to been in on this?"
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When you consider that US mail is, for a lot of reasons, rarely thrown down or left in a pile at the delivery address it's clear that at least some, if not a lot of, postal carriers are part of the ballot harvesting infrastructure for the Dems.
One of the things I'd seriously think about doing, especially if we've been unsuccessful in stopping the ballots from being sent out in the first place, is to (1) identify the dates that the ballots will be sent out from the county, (2) identify the addresses with the most 'suspect' ballots, (3) recruit people to witness what happens to the undeliverable ballots at each site (hopefully it'd be no more people than the number of mail carriers on the routes with questionable 'voters', and (4) figure out some way to verify which of these 'undeliverable' addresses just 'disappeared'.
The rest of the effort is a bit of sleuthing and all but, if we're stuck with dozens, hundreds, or thousands of ballots being collected by the mail carriers and being turned against us then, it seems to me that maybe all we have left is to shine a light on what we saw and... do it before the election actually took place.
This group appears to be attacking as you suggest and holding classes.
Hi Friend -
If you haven’t heard about IV3, please check it out here. Bottom line, the IV3 project gives you access to your local voter rolls, queries comparing voter roll data to other accredited databases, and state specific guidance on filing challenges, plus live in app chat, help desk, and 3x week live Q&A webinars for support.
We only have about six weeks left to review voter rolls. After that, most states will begin closing down any maintenance reviews in accordance with the election deadlines established through the National Voter Registration Act. To date, IV3 users have identified 191,705 challenges. If you are curious about the accuracy of your local voter rolls, and willing to engage, IV3 is the project for you.
This Wednesday we’re hosting a training for all new users of the IV3 platform. To register for the training click here or click the invitation shown below.
We love these guys. We are not in the same space. They are using relational technology and working with the masses. We are using Fractal to show all the stuff they miss. Regards, Jay
After a previous comment on TTV I signed up with them in AZ so I could understand what it is that they offer and if it'd do what it needs to do, not just for 2024 but to set the effort up for impacting the long-term effort to get permanent, sustainable, voter integrity results.
As much as the TTV is better than doing nothing (although if it won't complete the task it is more of a diversion of energy away from the critical action rather than a useful pursuit), when a true level of effort, LOE, and desired results is done, TTV seemed unlikely to get the job done (maybe it can but the resource requirements are... infeasible... under the current conditions).
Unfortunately, in today's environment, even pointing out that the current approach and LOE won't cut it is, rather than pointing out the need to change how we're doing what we want to do, seen as throwing out negatives and, because of that, unhelpful.
To those that do this often enough to develop the skills to perform this analysis, it really only takes days to do the work needed to formulate the objectives, plan of action, and estimates of the LOE needed to do this... in my humble opinion, TTV's approach isn't going to cut it.
It is not TTVs fault. TTV is well intentioned but they use 1980s technology. They are advocates, not tech people. They are limited by the relational technology they are using. Thus, sadly, those results will continue. We are doing a ton of work behind the scenes to get Fractal to every swing state. Regards, Jay
Jay, I get that. I don't have Fractal technology. Between now and the start of mailing out ballots, relational tech is all I have. I would gladly go in front of the County Commissioner's Court and promote them buying your technology to avoid sending ballots to illegal addresses, BUT I CAN'T TELL THEM A COST! 2 of our commissioners have shown up at election integrity events. I might get a response. GRAYSON COUNTY TEXAS (Frank and Kessell have both determined there is likely cheating in this county)
We are working only with some major swing states - due to the late time - so Fractal would not probably be something you could use for a county. Regards, Jay
Thank you. If I can find some illegal addresses using relational approach and make an issue of it I might put them on guard and hinder things. Between now and November that is all I can do. I agree, getting voters removed is so time comsuming that it is a non-starter regarding November. Regardless, you answered my question. It appears cleaning the rolls using your technology needs to be a campaign waged after January, when the new reps are in place.
I don't think you have to consider it too late to do something, there are a lot of other foundational data things that need to be done to make any effort effective at removing the voters and preventing them from staying on the voter rolls in the future.
While I won't speak for Jay, he has mentioned, and I'd second it, that to be effective voter rolls need to be obtained on a regular basis until a month or two after election day.
The same analytical techniques that provide the reasons for requesting a removal from the voter rolls can be used to analyze the data to identify people that voted that shouldn't have voted.
So, if you can get the lists, request them, create names that reflect the date and time that they were produced, and store them away in a secure location.
You might just find that they are worth far more than you you can ever imagine.
Talk, Talk, Talk, all I hear it talk. I have 20 people on our team here in Michigan working and I know we could be more effective. But, you need to connect us!
We need this in all swing states stat! Please lay out the process to implement it. Cost should be no impediment. All campagn financing should be directed here.
We need all hands on deck for the upcoming November election and I've been actively engaged as my civic duty to bring awareness of our fight here in the county to restore election integrity and have volunteered with the True the Vote team using the IV3 data app where 1,503 potentially ineligible voter registrations were found in my county of over 77,500 registered voters. Though the app isn't as precise as your Fractal system (I sure HOPE we can get your Fractal here in PA--a HUGE SWING STATE) i feel it is a way to get citizens involved as qualified electors to challenge their county voter rolls through a process that is often referred to as a voter challenge by submitting the potentially ineligible records for local review by the county Election Directors or County Commissioners. I just feel we need to use every tool in the toolbox to 'shake the tree' and make voters in the county aware that there is a problem in spite of the cockroaches in both parties & media who are repeating the big lie that the 2020 election was the safest and most secure election in history and that mail-in ballots are fine and that illegals won't dare vote in our upcoming elections. Catherine Englebrecht and Gregg Phillips have spent time in jail fighting election integrity and a Pro Se partner in our lawsuit in Pa is Greg Stenstrom who along with Leah Hoopes have the 'receipts' of proven evidence of election Fraud in Delaware County in 2020 and has written the book "The Parallel Election -- Blueprint for Deception".
I'm also a precinct committee person, judge of elections in Fayette County, PA -- and also a co-plaintiff in a lawsuit vs our county BOE for a full recount and recanvass of the May 2023 Primary where a candidate for county commissioner lost the primary by 122 mail in ballots. The candidate had to take the BOE to court, when it should have automatically granted a full recount. During the hearing our prosecuting attorney agreed to only a 6 precinct recount instead a full recount of the 77 precincts in the county and thus found a 9% error rate of the mail-in ballots that were counted! So I've got skin in the game here in Fayette County and have for the past 2 years as a committee person put election integrity as the top priority only to be told by elected officials and the BOE that the elections fraud is not in Fayette County but only in the Phillie and Pittsburgh areas.
I was banned because I exposed, and continue to expose, the fraud by the national voter integrity orgs who do NOT clean voter rolls. Their donors are donors to American Thinker.
Thanks for the explanation. Apparently (unless the donors are really Democrats) there's a dispute about the technology. In such case, it seems to me the solution is for the voter integrity orgs write a rebuttal to Jay's posts to American Thinker, and which they could direct people questioning them to. That's supposedly the American way of dealing with a disagreement. (Maybe the donors really are Democrats.)
OK. I used to read AT all the time but after finding out what they did to Jay I've downgraded them from 'Must Read' to 'Read Selective Articles'. That seemed, and still seems, the only option open to me because I can't change what their content editors do.
But, we do still have an opportunity to do something about election integrity, albeit a small window of time.
Well at least you have lots to chat about. We however, are working tirelessly with our Michigan team to get this funded and we spend most of the weekend on a proposal to some people you would know. Jay
I hate to be a nag but... to maintain context, would you make these responses to the comment you're responding to?
Thanks for your comment - we are now working with quite well known people to get this funded in every swing state. Updates on the Substack newsletter. Regards, Jay
It keeps occurring to me that the postal workers union has to been in on this? That is a shame because I come from a pro-union family. If it is so, my father is turning over in his grave.
"It keeps occurring to me that the postal workers union has to been in on this?"
____
When you consider that US mail is, for a lot of reasons, rarely thrown down or left in a pile at the delivery address it's clear that at least some, if not a lot of, postal carriers are part of the ballot harvesting infrastructure for the Dems.
One of the things I'd seriously think about doing, especially if we've been unsuccessful in stopping the ballots from being sent out in the first place, is to (1) identify the dates that the ballots will be sent out from the county, (2) identify the addresses with the most 'suspect' ballots, (3) recruit people to witness what happens to the undeliverable ballots at each site (hopefully it'd be no more people than the number of mail carriers on the routes with questionable 'voters', and (4) figure out some way to verify which of these 'undeliverable' addresses just 'disappeared'.
The rest of the effort is a bit of sleuthing and all but, if we're stuck with dozens, hundreds, or thousands of ballots being collected by the mail carriers and being turned against us then, it seems to me that maybe all we have left is to shine a light on what we saw and... do it before the election actually took place.
This group appears to be attacking as you suggest and holding classes.
Hi Friend -
If you haven’t heard about IV3, please check it out here. Bottom line, the IV3 project gives you access to your local voter rolls, queries comparing voter roll data to other accredited databases, and state specific guidance on filing challenges, plus live in app chat, help desk, and 3x week live Q&A webinars for support.
We only have about six weeks left to review voter rolls. After that, most states will begin closing down any maintenance reviews in accordance with the election deadlines established through the National Voter Registration Act. To date, IV3 users have identified 191,705 challenges. If you are curious about the accuracy of your local voter rolls, and willing to engage, IV3 is the project for you.
This Wednesday we’re hosting a training for all new users of the IV3 platform. To register for the training click here or click the invitation shown below.
Onward!
Your True the Vote Team
We love these guys. We are not in the same space. They are using relational technology and working with the masses. We are using Fractal to show all the stuff they miss. Regards, Jay
After a previous comment on TTV I signed up with them in AZ so I could understand what it is that they offer and if it'd do what it needs to do, not just for 2024 but to set the effort up for impacting the long-term effort to get permanent, sustainable, voter integrity results.
As much as the TTV is better than doing nothing (although if it won't complete the task it is more of a diversion of energy away from the critical action rather than a useful pursuit), when a true level of effort, LOE, and desired results is done, TTV seemed unlikely to get the job done (maybe it can but the resource requirements are... infeasible... under the current conditions).
Unfortunately, in today's environment, even pointing out that the current approach and LOE won't cut it is, rather than pointing out the need to change how we're doing what we want to do, seen as throwing out negatives and, because of that, unhelpful.
To those that do this often enough to develop the skills to perform this analysis, it really only takes days to do the work needed to formulate the objectives, plan of action, and estimates of the LOE needed to do this... in my humble opinion, TTV's approach isn't going to cut it.
It is not TTVs fault. TTV is well intentioned but they use 1980s technology. They are advocates, not tech people. They are limited by the relational technology they are using. Thus, sadly, those results will continue. We are doing a ton of work behind the scenes to get Fractal to every swing state. Regards, Jay
I wasn't blaming TTV or denigrating what they've done, at least I don't think I was.
Jay, I get that. I don't have Fractal technology. Between now and the start of mailing out ballots, relational tech is all I have. I would gladly go in front of the County Commissioner's Court and promote them buying your technology to avoid sending ballots to illegal addresses, BUT I CAN'T TELL THEM A COST! 2 of our commissioners have shown up at election integrity events. I might get a response. GRAYSON COUNTY TEXAS (Frank and Kessell have both determined there is likely cheating in this county)
We are working only with some major swing states - due to the late time - so Fractal would not probably be something you could use for a county. Regards, Jay
Thank you. If I can find some illegal addresses using relational approach and make an issue of it I might put them on guard and hinder things. Between now and November that is all I can do. I agree, getting voters removed is so time comsuming that it is a non-starter regarding November. Regardless, you answered my question. It appears cleaning the rolls using your technology needs to be a campaign waged after January, when the new reps are in place.
I don't think you have to consider it too late to do something, there are a lot of other foundational data things that need to be done to make any effort effective at removing the voters and preventing them from staying on the voter rolls in the future.
While I won't speak for Jay, he has mentioned, and I'd second it, that to be effective voter rolls need to be obtained on a regular basis until a month or two after election day.
The same analytical techniques that provide the reasons for requesting a removal from the voter rolls can be used to analyze the data to identify people that voted that shouldn't have voted.
So, if you can get the lists, request them, create names that reflect the date and time that they were produced, and store them away in a secure location.
You might just find that they are worth far more than you you can ever imagine.
"This group appears to be attacking as you suggest and holding classes."
____
Sorry, it looks the same but I think it is missing the mark... by a lot.
Talk, Talk, Talk, all I hear it talk. I have 20 people on our team here in Michigan working and I know we could be more effective. But, you need to connect us!
We need this in all swing states stat! Please lay out the process to implement it. Cost should be no impediment. All campagn financing should be directed here.
We need all hands on deck for the upcoming November election and I've been actively engaged as my civic duty to bring awareness of our fight here in the county to restore election integrity and have volunteered with the True the Vote team using the IV3 data app where 1,503 potentially ineligible voter registrations were found in my county of over 77,500 registered voters. Though the app isn't as precise as your Fractal system (I sure HOPE we can get your Fractal here in PA--a HUGE SWING STATE) i feel it is a way to get citizens involved as qualified electors to challenge their county voter rolls through a process that is often referred to as a voter challenge by submitting the potentially ineligible records for local review by the county Election Directors or County Commissioners. I just feel we need to use every tool in the toolbox to 'shake the tree' and make voters in the county aware that there is a problem in spite of the cockroaches in both parties & media who are repeating the big lie that the 2020 election was the safest and most secure election in history and that mail-in ballots are fine and that illegals won't dare vote in our upcoming elections. Catherine Englebrecht and Gregg Phillips have spent time in jail fighting election integrity and a Pro Se partner in our lawsuit in Pa is Greg Stenstrom who along with Leah Hoopes have the 'receipts' of proven evidence of election Fraud in Delaware County in 2020 and has written the book "The Parallel Election -- Blueprint for Deception".
I'm also a precinct committee person, judge of elections in Fayette County, PA -- and also a co-plaintiff in a lawsuit vs our county BOE for a full recount and recanvass of the May 2023 Primary where a candidate for county commissioner lost the primary by 122 mail in ballots. The candidate had to take the BOE to court, when it should have automatically granted a full recount. During the hearing our prosecuting attorney agreed to only a 6 precinct recount instead a full recount of the 77 precincts in the county and thus found a 9% error rate of the mail-in ballots that were counted! So I've got skin in the game here in Fayette County and have for the past 2 years as a committee person put election integrity as the top priority only to be told by elected officials and the BOE that the elections fraud is not in Fayette County but only in the Phillie and Pittsburgh areas.
Why was Jay banned from American Thinker?
That's a different subject that, when time permits, might be worth exploring...
Today, we have an election to win in November.
It may be a different subject, depending on the reason. And I didn't bring it up; Jay did, and he brings it up with each email.
I was banned because I exposed, and continue to expose, the fraud by the national voter integrity orgs who do NOT clean voter rolls. Their donors are donors to American Thinker.
Thanks for the explanation. Apparently (unless the donors are really Democrats) there's a dispute about the technology. In such case, it seems to me the solution is for the voter integrity orgs write a rebuttal to Jay's posts to American Thinker, and which they could direct people questioning them to. That's supposedly the American way of dealing with a disagreement. (Maybe the donors really are Democrats.)
OK. I used to read AT all the time but after finding out what they did to Jay I've downgraded them from 'Must Read' to 'Read Selective Articles'. That seemed, and still seems, the only option open to me because I can't change what their content editors do.
But, we do still have an opportunity to do something about election integrity, albeit a small window of time.
I read it too. I am surprised.